Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Toro Sidewinder 3500 D

The 4300D is all done . New blades and blade bolts installed and ready to go for spring . I  brought the side winder in today . The air filter and water separator filter needed changing so the new ones were put on and ,marked for next hr. change  . I noticed the rear deck doesn't line up properly . Checking it for worn bushing or a bent pull frame pin .A few parts ordered and some new Atomic blades . My old ones are getting a little thin .

Notice the front of these decks . Compared with the 4300D it has way more protection to help prevent the deck from getting knocked in . I don't have a 4500D here to compare front decks . Hmm makes me wonder if it was an over site . These 2 machines ( at this course) run in similar areas and so far the sidewinder has had no deck issues involving the blade hitting the decks .

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  1. I'm working part-time at my local golf course; with a background in aircraft maintenance I figured I would be able to help them to better maintain their equipment. I didn't know I was walking into a salvage yard! Anyway, the problem I am facing at the moment involves a Toro Sidewinder - the hydraulic motors won't turn fast enough to properly cut the grass. Can you make any suggestions to help me correct this problem?

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  2. If it doesn't transport fast to it may need a hydraulic oil and filter change. 46 oil is usually changed out every 400 hrs. If you need PDF manuals you can get them on line on Toro site. Just put in your model # etc. They don't like to cut wet long grass. Could be a bad O ring some where or by passing in one of the hydraulic motors. A hydraulic schematic should show you where to look. If you can't find one send me an email with year and model .

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  4. http://www.toro.com/en-ca/customer-support/Pages/educational-technical-references/Service%20Manuals/service-manuals.aspx

    Blades(s) turn too slowly. Gear pump (P1) is inefficient (see Testing).
    Cutting motor has internal leakage or malfunctioning cross--over
    relief valve (see Testing).
    Spindle bearing(s) are damaged.

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  5. I have a 2007 3500D Toro. The unit runs fine but when you are mowing, the blades turn off and we have to play with the switch to get them back on. Sometimes this works and most times it doesn't.
    I have replaced the switch twice. Any ideas.

    Thanks
    Bill

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  6. If it shuts machine off....park brake switch . If it's just the blades I'd check the transport mow switch and PTO switch. If their sitting around fertilizer in storage the switch connections may corrode. You can take the pto switch apart if it's like the one we had and clean up the contacts. Also check wiring to foot transport / mow switch..maybe a short/bare/or clean up connections.

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  7. Hello Bob, do know if Sidewinders have a rate of drop valve or some adjustment for the lowering of the decks.

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  8. I'm 99 % sure they don't have it .

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  9. At least not an adjustable one .

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  10. Ism having trouble tearing down a 3100d reel. How do you get the drive coupler off the reel so you can change the bearing in the housing

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  12. It might be a left hand thread if it's a reel . On our 5410s we had . They had left hand on one side . I'm guessing left side sitting in drivers seat

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  13. I have a 3500 D stalls in transport,mow does not matter but does not always do it replaced all filters all switches are working it will mow all day for 6 days straight then stall the next 4 days all the time

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  14. 3500 D stalls all the time then run fine for days then back to stalling replaced filters checked all switches can't find the problem

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    1. Check grounds on engine and battery terminal . Also connection to fuel shut off solinoid . Fuel pump could be on its way out to . They run till a short over heats pump and shuts down . Next time it cuts out see if you can hear the fuel solinoid click before trying to start . I'd check grounds first .

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    2. Check for dirty fuse connections to

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  15. Hey Bob i'm rebuilding spindles for the 3500d rotary decks. And i'm baffled by the way they say to install the seals. I don't understand how you can actually grease the bearings every 50 hours since the grease journals stop outside the seal. Would it cause the seal to blow out installing the top seal upside down? I could see installing the bottom seal lip facing down so it will allow the grease to come out but not let anything in. but I feel the top seal should be installed the same direction with the lip facing down to allow grease in pushing he seal out not against it. We are new to the machine any help will be greatly appreciated.

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    1. I've only installed according to instructions . No issues when we had them .

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    2. OK thank you, it just didn't seem right to me with the seal orientation and grease flow.

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  16. Hi Bob. The blades stopped spinning on my 3500 d. It was intermittent. Now they are dead. Switch is good as are the fuses

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    1. Did you check the switch that the sliding traction /mow lever under floor board . I've had that one stick before .

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  17. any ideas why the main fuse would blow on a toro 3500 when the key is turned to start

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    1. On our 5410 we had st the past course they would randomly blow that fuse ? After putting a relayed type 15 amp fuse the problem went away .

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  18. Starter drawing to much amps . If check the connections and battery cable wires for bumps ( corroded inside cable sheathing ) You can check the ignition switch and then cables if it's ok . If everything checks out ok it could be the starter shorted inside .

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  19. Hey Bob. The mowing decks on our 3500-D won't lift up. I'm no machanic and we don't have one. Any ideas on where to start looking? Really would like to get this mower running.

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    1. Haven't worked on one in years . Bad lift arm bushings . Lift lower lever or connection to it . Or a bad lift cylinder. If you can get the decks up by hand and remove lines on lift cylinders while supported .... use line plugs and see which on drops . The one that leaks down is the culprit . If not it could be something bigger . Any recent hydro oil changes . Right grade oil in system and proper level . Filters changed ? I know the hydro and filter changes are twice as often as a regular machines. I'd check the wire connection on lever and work your way back on electrical first ..

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  20. Hey Bob i got a 4500d that goes slow when mowing. It's fine in transport. I have replaced all filters and fluid. What's next

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    1. I would be checking the linkage next . There should be an adjustment for mow speed in operators manual . I've only had the 4300 models in the past . Oh if it's a tier 4 engine it may be an exhaust sensor or needs to do an exhaust burnout .

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  21. Got a 3500 d I just did fuel filter and water separator went to start and it blew fuel out the bottom any ideas why

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    1. Out the water separator? Not screwed in all the way maybe ? Not sure haven’t come across of an issue like that before . Bad filter maybe .... would be pretty rare . It was an OEM filter ?

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  22. I have a problem where my sidewinder will move, run, and cut but the lift/lower and side to side wont dont anything. I can see them flinch when i try. No fluid anywhere either.

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    1. send me your Email . I have some pictures to share of were this valve is on the older and newer type steering cylinders .check your linkage first to make sure it hasn't broken etc. bobprn@gmail.com

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  23. According to the service manual it could be a # of things . With out hydraulic test equipment its hard to pin point the problem .If the linkage is good and nothings flowing they says it might be bypassing because of a stuck relief valve in steering circuit . I'm not much help on this one . Manuals are available on Toro site . If your part of Golftechs you could post the question there . If your not it is a free site and lots of top notch techs for ideas .I'll do some more digging if I find something i'll post it here .

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  24. 3500d just bought this unit started going through it and found the blades won't turn on -- ok found no wires to seat switch so I added them still blades will not start. I tried switch and still did not start not sure-- first for this type of machine maybe I'm missing a starting sequence??

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    1. There is a switch controlled by a lever you kick over with your right toe to put it in mow mode . Maybe bad switch or connection . Easily accessed from underside right front corner .

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    2. Got a 4500d. Was running then shut off will turn over wont fire up. Seems like not getting fuel. Fuel pump?????

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  25. Fuel relay I’d check first . Then fuel shut off solinoid .If you haven’t changed fuel filter in a while it could be that or junk in tank from dirty gloves when fueling up . If top of tank has sagged a bit pick up tube good be bottom out . I’d also crack the tank fuel cap to see if vent might be plugged .

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  26. 2002 3500d toro runs fine and mows fine at 3/4 throttle, but when i put it to full throttle the machine begins to bog down while mowing and if i let off it will return to normal. Any help would be appreciated, thanks

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    1. sorry for delay . blogger doesn't send notices to email ? I would say weak fuel lines or one pinched somewhere or plugged fuel filter

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  27. Hey Bob, my toro 3500D keeps getting hot an shuts down like every 10-15 minutes, then I open engine cover let it cool bout 15 n it starts up again, an same thing over an over , have coolant, oil, fuel any ideas why it shuts down

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  28. Plugged radiator or thermostat stuck open . Coolant should be changed every 2 years with 50/50 mix .

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  29. Hey Bob, I’m working on a Toro Groundsmaster 3500D and the back deck won’t lift. It moves like its trying to. I removed the hydraulic cylinder and pushed the rod in and out freely. When I hooked it back up and started the machine the ram fully extended. Any suggestions?

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    1. Most likely by passing internally on cylinder . I think rebuild kits are available, but they are hard to take apart . Retaining clip rotates outbif I remember right . If you can cap both ends off when it’s up and it drops down all the way then that’s most like it

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  30. i have a 3500 D the mower will run fine for about 15 minutes and then it starts stalling out especially when i get on a incline. i have bleed all the fuel lines and checked for leaks. any suggestions on what the problem could be?

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    1. Plugged cap vent or debris in tank clogging intake tube . Would be were I’d check first

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