Toro 5800 planetary gear service

These Planetary gear fluids should be changed yearly at the very least . There are quit a few comments on how tediously  this job is . The 85 w 140 flows like molasses in a cold shop . Original idea I heard from dealer tech ( Bill @ Veseys ) and decided to make something using his idea and ideas from Golftechs .

The plug holes ( 4 of them 2 inside and two on the out side facing you ) are 7/16 - 20 thread . Pick up theses at Lawsons

 The 1/4 brass nut will work ok . One end has seat .Making up a double flare line . Double flared not so much for pressure but needed a bump out so nut will seal it up easily against fitting . 

 For guys that haven't made proper brake lines this is how its done . Cut pipe length you need . Bore out hole a bit otherwise you will have a bugger of a time getting the double flare tool out . 

Put it in holder (1/4"in this case ) and flip double flare tool upside down as a guide for length sticking out of clamp . 

 Flip flare tool over and put in tubing .

Press it in till it bottoms out .

Pull tool out and you should see a near perfect start to your double flare .

With out tool press in again a bit to flatten it out .

And done . If your making brake line I would advise to put your fittings on first . Lol you'll know why . 

Lightly clamp in vise 

And snug up . 

Here is my gizmo with pipe I just made attached . Yes its a spaghetti Jar . I'm going to keep an Eye out for a jar with a sturdier lid . I drill 2 holes in top a couple of sizes smaller than hose I'm using . One side with tubing will go to near bottom of jar the other just has to poke through a bit . 

A test run ....works perfectly . 

5 psi was enough to move that thick gear oil easily . Wouldn't hurt to warm the gear oil up a bit before starting . 

Draining the outside .Drain plug should be straight down leaving the other plug at the 3 or 9 o'clock position . 

Then the inside . If your in a warm shop it shouldn't take to long .

There are access holes to get at the 3 o'clock plugs out on the inside 

Filled my jar up with 85 w 140 then keeping the pressure on at 5 lbs waited for it to come out the 3 o'clock hole . The instructions are vague in the operators manual you have to do this to both sides . If you do just one it won't have the right amount of gear oil because it takes a long time for oil to transfer itself to the inside. You can leave the plugs out on the inside it will be barely trickling out when your done this side .   

On to the inside ones . See barely any coming out . 

Hooking up to bottom plug on inside 

Then after it seeps out put plug in and let rest of pressure out on pressure gun . You will loose a little when detaching this time so be ready with plug . 

Just another picture 

Toro had to get me this spacer on one side of machine . Park brake wire was rubbing on tire till it popped . 

All done . check for leaks and just snug all plugs in . Warm shop and warm oil after tools are out maybe 10 minutes a side easily . 

I had also tried to vacuum oil in from 3 o'clock positon sucking it up from bottom but found it took to long .

JD 4320 rear hydraulic hook up mounts

  

When I came here this tractor had the lines running from the loader attachment for a rear lines hook up . They where flopping around and hard to connect at times . Had a little time to make something work for what we had already . 

 Used some 1/4 " flat stock and drilled out a 1" hole then filed it out the shape of the coupler .

Had to make the holes a little farther apart . Hard to get your hands in there for hook up otherwise . 

 Here is one installed 

 The hook up from front block .

 Making up some washers to take up rest of space in behind bar . Also filed out a regular washer to just fit over line threads .

Not to bad . Mark the points of nut then use a triangle file to start .

  Then file the flat areas in between 

 Mounted it to the roll bar

with a clamp from hardware store . 

Just a demonstration of fixing something with what you have . If there were no connection points on this tractor it may be cheaper to buy a kit for the rear couplers from JD .  

Toro HDXD workman Thermostate

  Was a little shocked at the price but then again I haven't bought a thermostat in a few years .Did a little search on line and seemed to be in the ball park if your counting in taxes deliver exchange etc . 

 The OEM ordered from dealer looks a little different . I had ordered a gasket but it come with a gasket also . Both of which are to small but if you notched out one of the holes it may work . 

Reinstalled it with old gasket since it was a metal type and didn't seemed damaged . I'd rather would have liked a new one but this machines been in the shop for a while waiting on parts . 

 Checking out the old part . Looks a little off center . 

Lots of shiny marks on side from it scraping open to circulate anti-freeze .It must have stuck causing closed ( I say closed because lower hose was still cool when it was over heating )  Ran it up to temperature till fan came on and let it cool to check for leaks .... all good . It may have failed because sensor wire for fan was corroded and kept fan off . The guys wouldn't know the difference so it may have warped the thermostat enough to keep it from moving freely.  I figured the hotter it got the tighter the interference causing it not to open anymore .

Toro 5800 tank cradle inspection and clean up

Checking the cradle on our 5800 sprayer . I've read that some guys had checked theirs to see it in pretty hard shape . Even properly cleaned there are areas were chemicals are trapped . This sprayer has been on site for 4 years and had some time to pull the tank for a look . Not much holding on there put well supported and very easy to remove . We have all the bells and whistles on ours so there was a few extra hoses . The machine is pretty busy all season . Only unit we have so i'm taking extra time and checking it over good .  

   

Might need a hand getting the tank off . I managed ok but is a little awkward.

And its off . a fair amount of heavy scaling rust .

  

Impressed with the thickness of the steel used for cradle . Money well spent .  

Looks bad but ground it off with a medium stone grinding wheel .

   

Wear eye protection and mask lots of air born debris . Finished it of afterwards with a medium flap wheel . Turned out pretty good . 

Used the High solids primer and paint from Lawsons . Great stuff . 

Had some spent tubes laying around so decided to recycle them and contact cemented them over cradle .The original padding had all fallen off at one time or another . One was left . 

Light padding for the tank .

Doing the other side . Glue both contact surfaces and wait for it to dry clear then press them in place . 

Went to tighten this up and it broke apart in my hands . Maybe not chemical resistant plastic . New one on the way .

Tank and rinse tank reinstalled and leveled .

  

Going with sill gasket and doubling it up for under the straps . A little extra padding and will keep the rust off the tank . 

One strap cleaned up and painted. 3 to go.

For the cost you might as well replace all the hardware bolts . 

 A few more pics  

Waiting for paint to dry .Almost done and I give this machine a full fluid and filter service every season .

Even replacing hose clamps .

Straps back on just another attachment to clean up and put on this side . Should be good for another 4 years .

 Good time to also replace the suction side of pump O rings

And clean and inspect the flow meter .