Monday, November 21, 2011

Club Car Rear end Bearing Noise

 Over the years I have replaced a few bearings in CC rear ends . You know when they are going because they start sounding loud and whining  . The bearing on the opposite end on the shaft behind the secondary clutch is the culprit. If you pull the drive belt off and the noise goes away then you know it's the rear end for sure .First one I've done on the lift . Doing them on jack stands I didn't find them to hard to do . On the lift I supported the right rear frame area in front of the wheel with a 6x6 across the big wheel forks . That way you can remove everything on that side easily . I used my tripod to support the rear end and move it up and down as needed .
 Up in the air with right rear suspension hanging .
 Place tripod under rear end . Remove U bolt over axle ,shock ,  drive belt , secondary clutch , drain gear oil , axle bolts , axle removes easily , remove all the bolts for cover , bolts are all the same size .
 Remove the 2  - 10 mm . bolts
 Disconnect forward / reverse cable .
 Separate cover . There is a spot for a pry bar to fit in to help start it . Here is what it looks like .
 The shifting fork can only be installed in one direction . Keep track of which way it came out .
 I wiggle the 3 sets of gears out and remove them altogether . I find it easier to do it this way . Set them on the bench the way they came out .
 This is what it looks like when they are out . You will have to line the shifting fork up into the lever when reassembling .
The bad bearing is the one on the left . I replace both of them on this shaft only . The gear oil I find doesn't get up to this area well causing it to wear out .
 I don't have a press but this works well for me .
 For the other bearing I use threaded rod to make it work .
 I drive the new bearings on with my homemade tool . Also replace the seal for the secondary /driven clutch shaft .
 When installing the 3 sets of gears take your time and get the bearings seated in the case and line up your shifting fork and lever . Set them in the case by tapping the ends of the shafts with a dead blow hammer . The shaft for the shifting fork might take a bit to get it in , make sure you tap everything in secure .   I use RTV sealer and put a little grease on seal lip  then reassemble everything in reverse order . Lightly tab around the case to get it back on .  Use the bolt pattern sequence in book for case cover . Takes me about 1.5 to 2 hrs.


http://golfcoursemechanics.blogspot.ca/2011/11/sealed-bearing-tip.html


Some of the techs are using this tip for this situation .The gear oil doesn't get up there well .

56 comments:

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  2. Hi Bob, is there a specific name for this bearing as I need to order the parts but unsure which part number it is.. many thanks.... Mark

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  3. At home now . Going to the shop tomorrow . I get you the CC part # if I can find the bearing # I'll get that too . that way you can just pick it up at a bearing supply store .

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  4. I replace both bearings on shaft and seal for driven clutch. 1019278-01, 0007336 ( noisy bearing) and seal 1012714. Numbers on bearings are 6205 and 6305C3. If they come with seals do the sealed bearing grease trick.

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  5. What is the sealed bearing trick, have just ordered the sealed bearing ones???

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  6. I put it on the above post . Just click on it

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    1. I am not seeing what the "trick" is. Is it just removing the seals with a pick?

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    2. Did you click the link . Self explanatory. Pop seal out Top up grease and put seal back on and install

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  7. Thanks bob, you have the best blog.

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  8. How do you replace the gear set in a 2112 electric club car president

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    1. Not . I have never done one before . If you have a manual it should give s detailed step by step instructions .

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  9. How do you replace the gear set in a 2112 electric club car president

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  10. What year are you referring to (club car) bc my cart is making the whining noise and it has gear oil so I assume it is the bearing

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  11. Hello what year is the cart you are working on and where about are you located.... my cart is making the whining noise and is full of gear oil so I assume it is the bearing you are talking about... what do you think

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  12. This is a 1999 or 98 cc turf 2, . I've seen it on other models and years . Eastern Canada

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  13. HI BOB
    DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO A 64T GEAR CLUB CAR 1200 PIONEER
    THANKS BILL 705-435-0278

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  14. HI BOB
    DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO A 64T GEAR CLUB CAR 1200 PIONEER
    THANKS BILL 705-435-0278

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  15. Sorry I don't have access . Veseys equipment or club car direct might be able to help you

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  16. Bob, can I use this to install high speed gears on a 2002 Kawasaki DS Gas cart? I read else where that I would need to take the entire diff off so the gears don't fall out when I open the diff cover. Is really possible to just jack the cart up on the right side so the cart sits at an angle and open the diff cover without the gears falling out?

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    1. I couldn't see why not . Not familiar with that make but the idea should be the same .

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  17. Thanks Bob. What I actually meant for the model is a 2002 Club Car DS Villager with the FE350 engine. So the gears don't actually fall out when you open it up?

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  18. Thank you. I was dreading removing the entire diff. Or dropping the entire engine.

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  19. Hi Bob, having problems finding the rearend disc for a intelilock differential. 2007 clubcar carryall 295. Thanks so much.

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    1. http://www.clubcar.com/us/en/home.html Look st locate dealer . For my area it's http://www.veseysequipment.com/

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  20. Hi Bob, having problems finding replacement parts for intelilock rear differential.. need rearend replacement clutch packs. 2006 clubcar carryall 295. Thanks in advance.

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    1. http://www.clubcar.com/us/en/home.html Look st locate dealer . For my area it's http://www.veseysequipment.com/

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  21. Do you remove axle tube with axle in it still or remove axle then the tube?

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  22. Do you remove the axle then the axle tube or pull tube off with axle still in it?

    Thanks

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  23. One other thing Bob is there any special tools needed to remove secondary clutch? I haven't started this project yet just gathering information before I dig in.

    Thanks
    Rob

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    2. Slides off . There is a keyway . Goes on torque to 18 ft lbs . I'd put a little blue loctite . They recommend a replacement bolt kit

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  24. Bob, do you have to torque the bolts to close the rear? If so do you know the torque?

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  25. Is there a torque for the bolts when you put the rear back together?

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    2. 68 to 78 inch lbs case halfs . Axle to rear end 20 to 24 ft lbs . I use rtv sealer and let it sit over night before putting gear oil in

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  26. Took it apart tonight and sure enough the input shaft bearings are bad. Going to go ahead and replace all while apart though..

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  27. I got a 90 club car with a lift and my passenger axle keeps sliding out and I can't figure out how to stop it also is gas powered any help is appreciated

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    1. If you take the axle tube out and slide axle back in off machine there should be a circlip holding the axle in place . Must have broke or end of axle wore the groove out.

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    2. Huge thanks Bob. Now I know to take it to my local shop. I cant do the work myself like I used to. Seeing your writeup confirmed it. Glad I didn't attempt it and get stuck half way with no cart to drive and get charged more to have it finished by someine anyway.

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  28. Hi Bob, I bought a rear end for a project and it's just like the one on the photos.I would like to know the year model because the driver side shaft needs replacing and I checked the bearings and the gear that runs off the clutch also needs new bearings. They don't have parts numbers anywhere. Thx for your help. Eugene

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  29. Hi Bob, I have a 2001 club car gas and I'm trying to replace the bearing on the axle, I have the axel out and retaining clips removed but I cant get the bearing off.

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    1. If it’s in axle tube and clips off use a long piece of pipe or rebar and tap it out . Side to side . It Sliding hammer if you have one . I

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    2. It has like a 2 in shaft over the axle up against the bearing

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  30. So bearing is on axle shaft ? Haven’t had to remove one before now I only have to gators here . Maybe heat bearing and try wedging it off, usually and bearing puller goes around bearing and is pressed off .you might be able to heat it up good with benzene torch and drop shaft end down on a good piece of hardwood, you don’t what to damage splines on end . I have access to torch so would just cut it of or enough to spit inner race

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  31. Is there anyway I can send you a picture of it.

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  32. Hi. We have a 1999 club car carry all 6. When you switch it to reverse it makes an awful grinding noise. We have replaced the bearings and thrust washers and plates. What is the problem and how can we fix it.

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    1. Hard to say . I would check the lever goes far enough to engage it into reverse . Cable adjustment. Are the clutches working properly. Belt should not be spinning during gear changing. Maybe primary clutch is seized up gripping the belt . Check those ideas first.

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